sickandtired on 12/27/2007 9:48:26 PM wrote:
Duane, Sorry to be the bearer of bad news: "Thus, appellant’s verbal disruptions while the meeting was taking place and his twice failing to leave the council chamber when Officer Rogers asked him to do so and moving toward the door only when Officer Rogers applied pressure through a wristlock were a violation of the ordinance because that conduct disrupted the meeting, caused the mayor to call the recess, and delayed resumption of the meeting, thereby “prevent[ing] or interfer[ing] with the orderly conduct of [the] meeting,” Court of Appeals affirmed your conviction for disorderly conduct.
Let it go.
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boater on 12/25/2007 1:40:15 PM wrote:
tigerlilly on 11/10/2007 8:05:09 PM wrote:
I'm wondering if any in Roanoke are veterans?
CNN Poll that 68% of homeless are veterans...
November 7, 2007 - Veterans make up one in four homeless people in the United States, though they are only 11 percent of the general adult population, according to a report to be released Thursday.
http://www.veteransforcommonsense.org/index.cfm/page/article/id/8757
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You would do well to NOT rely on figures from a group whith such a one sided agenda. Did you realize the counts of homeless INCLUDED those "seeking homeless services", and what that means, if you dig further, is that everybody who ate a meal or picked up a free apple at a soup kitchen got counted as homeless!
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Starcityflyer on 12/24/2007 1:11:19 PM wrote:
Dear sickandtired:
I have been enjoying my eggnog with great pleasure and joy with each sip, I can assure you not a tear drop was mixed in. I have hardly concerned myself with what happened over two years ago, my lawyer is handling all of that. And we expect our new year to begin with the appeals court finding me "NOT Guilty" of disrupting a public meeting since no public meeting was in process. The Mayor had declared a recess! This is the grounds for appeal and the law will be decided accordingly. Best wishes to you for a Blessed Christmas and Joyous New Year, whoever you are!
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sickandtired on 12/24/2007 10:41:10 AM wrote:
Duane, are you still crying in your egg nog over being twice convicted for disrupting a public meeting? www.roanoke.com/news/roanoke/wb/52698
You really need to let some of that hostility go, Duane. It will eat you alive. This is hardly the season to be so venomous.
Peace.
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Starcityflyer on 12/24/2007 8:00:33 AM wrote:
If you looked up the word "Hypocrite" it would be followed by "Mayor Nelson Harris of Virginia Heights Baptist Church" The man does not have a clue about dealing with people of dispair and need. When was the last time (if ever) that he sat down and broke bread with those who dine at the Rescue Mission? The problem in the Market area with the Homeless is not those who did not choose to be homeless, but those who are alcoholics and drug users who choose this life style and don't care to change. I did not see one memtion about dealing with this in his 10 plan. If he was to so humble himself to get out among the people and talk to them he could learn the real problems.
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Starcityflyer on 12/24/2007 7:58:13 AM wrote:
If you looked up the word "Hypocrite" it would be followed by "Mayor Nelson Harris of Virginia Heights Baptist Church" The man does not have a clue about dealing with people of dispair and need. When was the last time (if ever) that he sat down and broke bread with those who dine at the Rescue Mission? The problem in the Market area with the Homeless is not those who did not choose to be homeless, but those who are alcoholics and drug users who choose this life style and don't care to change. I did not see one memtion about dealing with this in his 10 plan. If he was to so humble himself to get out among the people and talk to them he could learn the real problems.
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TripleActionJones on 12/20/2007 9:23:42 AM wrote:
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"On Friday, Mayor Nelson Harris is expected to announce a regional, 10-year plan to end homelessness in the city."
End homelessnes?
That's some big talk.
That's like the government saying they'd end drug use with the "War on Drugs."
We all know how that's worked out cause nobody uses drugs anymore,right?
Just not gonna happen.
Perhaps a better thing to say would be a "10 year plan to significantly reduce homelessness."
Anyways.....here's to hoping city coucil and places like RAM House and Rescue Mission work together to curtail homelessness and get people help they may need.
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Travelguy on 12/16/2007 9:06:08 AM wrote:
Roanoke has always had some problem with the homeless as long as I remember. There have been criminal cases where the homeless have been killed and beaten on downtown streets.
Many homeless have mental health issues and quite a few people(including the churches and
others)are reluctant or afraid to help them.
As a city resident I am proud that we do have a heart in Roanoke. I am ashamed of all of the outlying rural areas where many come from who don't care.
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Italianboy921 on 11/16/2007 5:10:46 PM wrote:
If they are willing to start with banning all the people that come from out of the area to stay in our shelters, sure why not. I think it is a real shame that probably 40-50 percent of the people that stay in the mission are not even from around here. Somehow through the grapevine they have heard that Roanoke has really nice homeless facilities so they migrate here and that is wrong. What ever happened to taking care of our own? If we just had our own local folks to take care of we would have funds to do other things for the community.
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tigerlilly on 11/10/2007 8:12:12 PM wrote:
Not 68% ... that pasted from the Poll of Americans against the war.
I only saw quotes from Fitzpatrick and Harris ... did anyone else on Council comment? Did they all agree on this? Gees, it came across so harsh. Did someone mention the new Museum in the path of the homeless? This is just a fact that ALL cities deal with. It amazes me that Mayor Harris being a preacher would come across so harshly. I too belieive "the least of these" and of all people Mayor Harris should understand that.
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tigerlilly on 11/10/2007 8:05:09 PM wrote:
I'm wondering if any in Roanoke are veterans?
CNN Poll that 68% of homeless are veterans...
November 7, 2007 - Veterans make up one in four homeless people in the United States, though they are only 11 percent of the general adult population, according to a report to be released Thursday.
http://www.veteransforcommonsense.org/index.cfm/page/article/id/8757
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TripleActionJones on 11/8/2007 11:20:25 AM wrote:
City Council really stuck their collective foot in mouth on this one.
I have a feeling they will revise their statements so that it comes across less harsh.
It's cliched to say, but you really don't know what each individual person has been through in their life, so to lump every single person who is homeless into a "worthless and useless" category is very unfair, not to mention discriminatory!
And nobody on council even provided suggestions for solutions, at least in that article.
I saw a mention of "taking tough steps" and "shipping them back" but that sounds both vague and ludicrous.
Council members truly should spend A LOT of time at these shelters before making statements.
And listen to the people here as well.
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old_curmudgeon on 11/7/2007 9:01:21 AM wrote:
Oh my. City Council wants to "help"? Is this is the same body that fought for umpteen years over Victory Stadium? The same group that thought an amphitheater would work just fine at the noisiest intersection in town? The same group that thinks raising parking fees is a good thing? Hmm...who needs that kind of "help"?
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Walker on 11/6/2007 4:52:56 PM wrote:
"The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'"
This quote from Ronald Reagan about sums it up for me.
QUALITY programs doing well ON THEIR OWN, don't let the "nanny state" take it over and ruin it.
God bless all those that work and volunteer with these organizations and the people who need them!
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lpmorg on 11/6/2007 2:57:33 PM wrote:
Roanoke should be proud to receive the reputation of a place where people are fed and needs are met. I am a Bd. Member at RAM and a volunteer of the Rescue Mission. These, and many other groups, are amazing assets to our community - and we are ALL blessed by the work they do. They are saving tax payers millions of dollars, and without public money in many cases. I could go on and on about this issue, makes me so sad to think we blame the victims, and those trying to help, as the cause of homelessness. Maybe addiction, mental illness, vicuous cycles of poverty - maybe we can put some of the blame there, and not on caring, serving volunteers.
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Travelguy on 11/6/2007 10:17:07 AM wrote:
I agree the comments by Bev Fitzpatrick were very cold and he should apologize and show a little more compassion. On the other hand, I feel the neighboring cities/counties are not doing their job in caring for the homeless.
I would challenge the churches and other charitable organizations outside Roanoke to start caring about these people. Yes, there are problems overseas but lets start something unique, why not care for the people in the U.S. for a change?
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Kringles_Helper on 11/6/2007 9:03:52 AM wrote:
There is no such thing as "Too nice"!!
Though nobility and honor are bereft in cities where the affluent pass the homeless with nothing but cowardly silence, sentiment of "too nice" should be driven from our government!
Societies should not be judged upon the standards of those who carelessly waste resources upon selfish materialism, but by the standards of living faced by the least of us.
Gifting a kind voice may one day restore hope, if your own personal budget becomes tight. I assure you, unless we take some proactive measures to improve our economy, more and more people will be thanking Roanoke for her kindness.
Stop your whining and come up with solutions. Put the homeless to work gardening your greenways to feed themselves.
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flowmaur on 11/6/2007 8:13:20 AM wrote:
Obviously, the missions are doing a pretty darned good job or they wouldn't be receiving so much aid from the community.
Now, if the city desires to stop the influx it would seem that it'd need to somehow cause others to feel negatively about the mission, so that aid to it would be hurt.
The phrase 'do unto others as you'd have done unto yourself' comes to my mind, as does the one 'out of sight out of mind'.
Apparently, the city is only considering the second one.
There is a third phrase, 'what goes around comes around'. May it not come back around to haunt the families of those who would choose to hurt the missions.
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