zirainthia on 5/16/2008 7:20:40 PM wrote:
Best Buy...too much cheap beer...sorry
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zirainthia on 5/16/2008 7:19:50 PM wrote:
Hey I have offended myself this time ...I have an emachines computer that I constantly check out Roanoke.com on and it came from Best But...WTF?
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Justafan on 5/16/2008 1:40:15 PM wrote:
Entropy: I know we're off topic, but why are people going 75mph to start with. I set the cruise control at 70 and go through speed traps with no problem. If you are going 75 and have to break because of a trooper, you are the problem, not him.
Z: I do agree with your point on electronics, buy cheap, get cheap. That's why I don't buy those at Wal-Mart.
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ziranthia on 5/16/2008 1:10:44 PM wrote:
Entropy, you have really stuck the pin in the party hog, now. State Troopers and Walmart have nothing in common. It's like you are throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Anyway, Wallyworld is a BAD place. They ruin the local economy, because other businesses can't compete and suffer, and eventually close. Their merchandise (especially electronics) DOES NOT LAST. I'm not talking about paper towels or razor blades, but vacuum cleaners, computers (like E-Machines)and no-name LCD tvs (like Funai). Having to replace those items after owning them a short time does NOT save anyone money.
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Entropy on 5/16/2008 12:45:26 PM wrote:
Justafan, never had a speeding ticket in my life. only one car accident and it was while i was inside an outback steakhouse when an ice plow dumped 3 tons of ice and snow onto the top of my car from a parking garage roof. (ain't that a pain?)
State Troopers do not make roads safer. They generate revenue. The drive on I-81 is 10 times more harrowing when cars brake from 75 to 65 because they see a speed trap than if they are consistently staying at 75. Even managed to see a bad wreck involving Buffalo Soldiers Bikers near mm128 yesterday. Combine that with the trucks, and its a bad situation.
Also, speed limit in NC is 70 except in major metropolitan areas which is more realistic.
we're off topic though. sorry.
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Justafan on 5/16/2008 8:31:14 AM wrote:
Entropy: Sounds like the roads in North Carolina and points south are not very safe. The State Trooper presence on the road slows cars down to a safe level. If you are constantly getting speeding tickets, then you are the problem, not the troopers.
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Entropy on 5/15/2008 9:56:12 PM wrote:
P.S. on my way down here to Atlanta today to find Ziranthia and put sugar in his gas tank. I saw 8 state trooper speed traps on 81 and 77 and not one police officer after I crossed into NC Whatsupwiththat?
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Entropy on 5/15/2008 9:48:46 PM wrote:
Walker,
I find that hard to believe. State Troopers only know two things... how to cut their hair short and to give out speeding tickets. They do not do anything else.
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Justafan on 5/15/2008 4:40:04 PM wrote:
I'm not sure I understand the statement about items purchased at Wal-Mart are cheaply made. I don't shop there often, but the things I purchase are sold in other stores as well. Ban deoderant, Arm & Hammer tootpaste, Gillette razor blades, RainX, Fram filters, Diet Dr. Peppers, Coors Light, Kraft cheese, Tide detergent, Clorox II, etc..etc..
These products aren't made by children in sweat shops. To my knowledge (limited though it may be) they are made in the U.S.A.
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jluvva1 on 5/15/2008 4:16:42 PM wrote:
Since all the legal stuff is approved. I hope the developer lands, Target and Kohl's and whatever else there. I was reading where someone said "that people are greedy to sale their place" and blah blah. How do they know that persons finaicial needs?
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jluvva1 on 5/15/2008 3:53:08 PM wrote:
I agree Keith, I was hoping that Wal-mart was going to move. People are so afraid of change. If you want to live out in the courtry, then move about 10 miles away from the city. If you live right in a hub area that is close to developement, then duh!! Its going to change.
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jluvva1 on 5/15/2008 3:43:31 PM wrote:
So what you are saying is that a black person wearing baggy pants is automatically a theif??
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jamesgarris on 5/15/2008 2:51:17 PM wrote:
Target has been looking at 220 south. In fact "informed rumor" had it going in where Walmart was to vacate at Hunting Hills Plaza. Now maybe Target will try to build in clearbrook. I am sure that the developer is trying to get other interested big box parties to look at the site!
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scandals on 5/15/2008 1:48:09 PM wrote:
I meant to say, "if you haven't experienced" it.
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scandals on 5/15/2008 1:45:49 PM wrote:
Valley View and the WalMart out there are a mess. There is a lot of violence that happens out there. I've seen it with my own eyes and have been on the recieving end of it. It's a good place for folks that believe all the hype about "gettin mine and bling bling respect" go to show off there primal behavior.
I had a neighbor that was shot at the Walmart several years ago over a parking space.
If you experienced the rediculous, thuggish, intimidation crap that goes on out there, I suggest you dress like a middle class white male and mind your own business, you should be able to find plenty then.
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Walker on 5/15/2008 1:29:35 PM wrote:
Protect yourself through firearms.
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jluvva1 on 5/15/2008 1:00:07 PM wrote:
Your right a person can take it or leave it. It is good to know these things. I am not going to live in fear when I go out. Instead of people B@tch@n, write to developers and your local government and have some actions taken.
If Valley View is bad as people say, then bring attention to an outside source. Such as the media in another area, or whatever. The owners will get the hint.
Crime isn't going to fix itself.
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Walker on 5/15/2008 11:31:29 AM wrote:
First of all, the trooper said VALLEY VIEW MALL, not valley view WAL-mart.
Second of all, he said from here (Roanoke) to Richmond. Which means, the space in between here and there, not everything WEST of Richmond.
Personally, I can totally see how VV Mall is dangerous. Every time I go I see thugs and thugettes strutting and hanging out with their pants half to the floor.
I was just passing on what a State Trooper told my brother-in-law. Take it or leave it.
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jluvva1 on 5/15/2008 11:05:21 AM wrote:
Valley View is dangerous??? I go there all the time and have never seen anything happen, day or night. Yeah, things have happened aroiund the mall in the past, but that is anywhere. There is no safe place. Crime can happen, and will always be an issue regardless where you live, shop or work.
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Travelguy on 5/15/2008 10:10:04 AM wrote:
The WalMart at Valley View Mall was a mistake to build so close to the Mall. Doesn't anyone remember the incident in Radford when a guy went in the WalMart and shot and killed his girlfriend in the store?
Or the guy in Salem who shot and killed another guy 12 times in front of Food Lion? Or what about Va Tech? I'm sorry but I haven't seen anything at the WalMart Valley View to make it seem its the most dangerous place to be west of Richmond!!
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Walker on 5/15/2008 8:24:11 AM wrote:
My brother-in-law just recently got his permit to carry a concealed weapon. His instructor, a state trooper, told him Valley View Mall was the most dangerous place from here to Richmond.
The trooper told him that there is mugging/robbery there every other day. He said that the stores pay a hefty price to the media, NOT to report on it.
I hope someone doesn't try to rob my brother-in-law, he's ready for it and he will knock'em down, so to speak.
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bikerjohn on 5/15/2008 8:23:21 AM wrote:
Well, despite our back-woods-ness, we DO have a doc office in Krogers!
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Entropy on 5/15/2008 2:17:26 AM wrote:
Z, you can get your teeth whitened at Sam's Club on some days.... I saw it with my own eyes!
For those that claim you get the cheapest deals at Wal-Mart, there's a reason they're cheap. Because they're cheaply made. Want a cheap deal and still support Wal-Mart, go to Sams Club.
Violence at the Valley View Wal Mart. lol you guys make it sound like its gangland, yet will go shopping about 500 feet away at Best Buy or Petsmart.
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ziranthia on 5/14/2008 8:59:45 PM wrote:
"Hey Z, maybe the new super wally's should have a doc office in them"
Now that is a frightening concept! Doctors at Wallyworld. LOL!!! We aren't talking the cream of the crop, by any means. I just hope they have good malpractice insurance, or even speak English, for that matter. What's next, dentists? I can see it now. Their tools would be pliers and bottle of Old Crow. I'll pass.
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sandie8 on 5/14/2008 6:14:25 PM wrote:
Greed eventually catches up with people, no matter what their vocation. There were so many sellers that were willing to sacrifice the safety of women and children on a very dangerous section of 220 for their big profits off selling a piece of property. Thank God there was one county supervisor that was willing to stand up for truth and honor in the beginning. Now that is what a real Christian is supposed to be; it is so refreshing to see that someone still believes in doing the right thing and that it is not about money.
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Travelguy on 5/14/2008 5:55:25 PM wrote:
I would not be surprised if the Wally World crowd in Roanoke County government gets with the developer to build yet another one in the valley. How about another nice discount store on Rt 419 next to the new Keagy Village fiasco? I'm sure the neighbors will go for that one!
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bikerjohn on 5/14/2008 4:04:36 PM wrote:
Hey Z, maybe the new super wally's should have a doc office in them. They could put it next to the pharmacy and eye center. Who needs a big, expensive hospital?
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scandals on 5/14/2008 3:02:26 PM wrote:
Z, believe it or not...I agree with you.
Some econmists will tell you that there is not a relationship between the federal trade deficit, which is in the billions and the slow down of the economy. As China continues to sell to us and not buy anything from us and continue the child labor, patent stealing and no oversight policies or lack therof, more of our money goes to China and none comes back.
Let's not allinate the rest of the world, but buy something made in the USA occassionaly. If we don't support American Industry, which Walmart doesn't, who will? Many in our country are concerned with the ability of the US to support itself after becoming so reliant on foreign made goods. We could do it, but we have lost many sectors.
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ziranthia on 5/14/2008 1:36:44 PM wrote:
Autism, those low prices come with an invisible price tag. Walmart's suppliers deal with Asian sweatshops, where people produce goods under horrible conditions, for pennies an hour. Walmart is so powerful, its suppliers are forced to accept much lower profit margins, and therefore constantly seek out new manufacturing sources which are cheaper. The result is SHODDY products that don't last. Walmart also pays its own employees an insanely low wage and horrible benefits. The result is utilization of Medicaid and other government programs AND charity write-offs by hospitals and doctors, which results in HIGHER prices for the rest of us. Personally, I'm tired of paying high prices because other people are unable to pay. Think about it.
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TripleActionJones on 5/14/2008 9:41:28 AM wrote:
File this under - One good thing to come out of the current miserable economy!
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Travelguy on 5/14/2008 9:39:34 AM wrote:
Great News!! I guess my bumper sticker "Support China, Shop at Wal Mart"
made an impact!!
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ziranthia on 5/13/2008 9:31:46 PM wrote:
***BREAKING NEWS***
Walmart is NOT coming to Clearbrook. One less Chinese flea market is good news for any area!
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Walker on 11/15/2007 10:19:45 AM wrote:
scarletthorses-
Now, that is a beef that I can stand behind and agree with.
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Entropy on 11/15/2007 9:24:33 AM wrote:
While I will not divulge exactly my source, but someone reliable in the higher kroger food chain (pun intended) told me a study was done and the people surveyed on the south side of VA-419 did not like crossing over 419 to Tanglewood and Cave Spring Corners, hence the "gourmet" Kroger just a mile down the road.
As for chain dining? No thanks. I think dining in Roanoke is actually on the rise... now if they could just work on their prices. The retail offerings here are on the decline. I don't need another Wal-Mart, and I don't need 100 hippie soap vendors.
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StephenAnderson on 11/14/2007 3:53:24 PM wrote:
I always thought Target and Tanglewood would have been a win-win. Target needs a presence in SW county and Tanglewood needs some foot traffic. Target might have fit the bill better than Staples???
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Walker on 11/14/2007 2:50:13 PM wrote:
If I didn't know any better, I'd think you anti-Wal-Mart folks were just simply snobs.
As far as southwest roanoker's go, they could care less about crossing 419, silly theory. I think the Kroger company might have had just a bit to say about WHERE they want their stores.
Their strategy might have been focused on MONEY, where they can make the most, etc. I know that makes them evil to most of you out there in Roanoke Timesland.
It worked well for them, for years, until an even BETTER company came. That would be Ukrops, our Christian-based grocery market that's been rocking the house ever since they arrived. Maybe Kroger could revitalize their image by accepting Christ as their savior. ;)
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ziranthia on 11/14/2007 2:30:26 PM wrote:
E, I think you may have gotten the wrong idea about Walker's post. It wasn't really meant to promote Wallyworld. I doubt many people would considering promoting Wallyworld. It is the wrong kind of "growth", and defines an area that it overpowers. My earlier post named a few national chains which Roanoke doesn't have, and believe me, there are many, many others on that list. The selection of retail and dining offerings in Roanoke is downright anemic. There is no one particular "high-end" area with a Borders or CostCo or Cheesecake Factor. Wallyworld dominates all four corners of the Roanoke Valley. But maybe that's what the people want. Personally, I'm blown away by the fact that there is only one Target in Roanoke! And no Chilis!
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Entropy on 11/14/2007 12:57:12 PM wrote:
I don't think its an issue of building up an area Walker, its what kind of an area do you want it to become? Throw in some craptastic wares at the Wal-Mart or more high end stuff. There's plenty of Wal-mart to go around... why not some new things to expand the city's offerings? OH YEAH because people in Southwest are scared to cross 419. Thats why there's two Krogers less than a mile from each other.
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Travelguy on 11/14/2007 9:26:37 AM wrote:
Thanks for the efforts of the anti-WalMart group!! You will not be forgotten! I always thought it was a hopeless situation with the WalMart type population in Roanoke County. I guess the only "good" thing about this horrible development is that the old WalMart on Franklin Road may become a Kohls or a Costco, at long last.
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Walker on 11/14/2007 8:49:37 AM wrote:
Yeah, I agree. Put ANY other big box store or retail giant there. Just don't put the largest employer and most successful one there. (Sarcasm off)
I can certainly understand people in the area not wanting the area congested or "built-up", so to speak. But, that is what developement is. Think of it this way, they could be getting a Family Dollar.
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ziranthia on 11/14/2007 8:39:21 AM wrote:
I just read the news, and I must admit that I am not surprised that Walmart will proceed in Clearbrook. This is bad news for Clearbrook! That area could have been "high-end", due to the car dealerships in the vicinity. A Caribou Coffee, a Baja Fresh, a Kohl's, a PetCo, possibly a Borders, a Penn Station, or maybe even another Target would accent that area nicely. Instead, Clearbrook gets an Indonesian yard sale. So very sad!
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jjwalker on 9/24/2007 10:00:59 PM wrote:
i wish walmart had a counter like kmarts used to have. Then, I'd go every morning and have a stickybun.
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ru4rw2 on 9/23/2007 3:20:29 PM wrote:
I personally commend Citizens for Smart Growth for taking on Wal-mart and the board of supervisors. If more people would support this group,it can make a difference. Why would anyone want to have an eyesore like Walmart in a community like Clearbrook? Why would the parents of the children, going to Clearbrook elementary, want a 24 hr superstore across the street from the school? And the rescue squad? How much harder will it be for them to the job they are needed to do? We all know how the traffic is on 220, but what will it be like if Walmart is built. Come on people, don't let another Walmart into our community. We already have one within a couple of miles from Clearbrook. Stand up and tell them they are not wanted.
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Pamela on 8/20/2007 5:08:13 PM wrote:
yeah, as far as I am concerned wallyworld sucks and unfortunately, will most likely get what they want.
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ziranthia on 8/20/2007 9:38:35 AM wrote:
Yes, there will no doubt be a WallyWorld on every corner, but as far as I am concerned, they can close every Walmart, everywhere. Walmart is horrible. They bully their suppliers, they undermine their competition, they utilize Indonesian slave labor, and overutilize the welfare system, mainly Medicaid. It's true. End of story. If Roanokers want what's right for their community, it ain't Walmart. Not in Clearbrook or anywhere else.
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bikerjohn on 8/20/2007 8:00:10 AM wrote:
So, Z, will you be near a walmart after the move? I hear they are mighty handy for settin' up the old apartment. The do have some great bar-b-q in that part of the world, and......oops, judging from the posts, looks like there's not even a handful of folks who are interested in whether Walmart rebuilds in Clearbrook. Except the CAVE people (Citizens Against Virtually Everything). Unless you're a Land Rover dealer. HHMMM, do I really NEED a Land Rover to live in Roanoke?
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ziranthia on 8/13/2007 9:12:30 PM wrote:
Yes, it's true. I am transferring to Atlanta. I will just have to see how things go, and make necessary adjustments if needed. I did in NOVA, and I can do it in Atlanta. Afterall, I started out in Manassas Park, because that was all I could afford. But things improved.
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VAtoGA on 8/13/2007 8:14:09 PM wrote:
Ziranthia you are seriously moving to College Park? If all your research has been online then that would explain this decision. Hope you like airports you will be living next to one you know and it's a tad on the huge side. Oh well, you always know best.
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GeorgiaBoy on 8/13/2007 2:55:37 PM wrote:
Excellent Z,
College Park was ( and probably still is) a nice area when I lived in Atlanta. I have lots of friends in the Atlanta area who are Docs, Lawyers, Dentists, Real Estate agents etc....let me know if you need a referral for one of their services and I will hook you up!
Be sure to visit Stone Mountain Park..Lake Lanier...and some of the wineries in the area.
Oh, and to stay on topic on this thread so the Times won't gig me....Wal-Mart is gonna do what Wal-Mart is gonna do.
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ziranthia on 8/13/2007 2:41:38 PM wrote:
Yep Georgia, I leave on September 5th, for College Park. I have done as much research as possible online, and the area looks alright, but you never know. Three of my coworkers have already transferred down there, and they love it. Only time will tell, but I am very excited. Hopefully, the Times will leave my post alone, unlike the last time! Have a good one.
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GeorgiaBoy on 8/13/2007 2:02:58 PM wrote:
Hey Z,
I just caught a glimpse of a post of yours on another board before the Times closed the thread. I hear you are moving to Atlanta? Congrats on the transfer...I grew up there in Atlanta ( Duluth, Gwinnett County). What company will you be working for and where at in the Metro area are you thinking about living in? I will be interested in hearing your take on the Hotlanta experience after you settle in.
--G-boy
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ziranthia on 8/13/2007 11:39:38 AM wrote:
"Needs? Can't say I've personally ever found myself in NEED of a Chili's."
Now that's what I would expect Triple to say! Possibly Travelguy should have said "wants" instead of "needs". Please keep in mind that just because something doesn't appeal to YOU personally, doesn't mean it doesn't appeal to others. Take Roanoke for example. Some love it, others (like myself) think it needs to be bulldozed over. To each his own. But I will say that what Roanoke DOESN'T need, is another Wally World. Roanoke is saturating its market with super discount chains that destroy the local economy and discourage other retail establishments from locating in the area. Think about that, my friend.
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TripleActionJones on 8/13/2007 11:04:11 AM wrote:
Well,good that they're appealing but if it amounts to anything I'll be very surprised.
Wal Mart will most likely end up getting what Wal Mart wants, in this case.
I stay away from the whole Lowes/HomeDepot/Wal Mart trifecta intersection as much as possible as it is now.
"Travelguy on 8/11/2007 10:54:09 AM wrote:
stores the valley needs like Kohls, Costco, Chilis."
Needs? Can't say I've personally ever found myself in NEED of a Chili's.
Ruby Tuesday/Applebee's/TGI Fridays/Chili's - they're all the same thing.
Chain restauarants don't improve the quality of my life.
Not trying to come down on you though.To each their own and I understand the desire for the chain stores.
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1950bing on 8/11/2007 10:59:28 AM wrote:
WallMart just needs to go away !
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Travelguy on 8/11/2007 10:54:09 AM wrote:
The County Board of Supervisors approved this project, the Slate Hill fiasco and the Keagy Village center, should I say more?
Since the City has been more successful in commercial construction recently, the County feels it should play "catch up". I thought the Clearbrook site would be stores the valley needs like Kohls, Costco, Chilis. I guess this didn't happen so we are stuck with another Wally World. I won't shop there
since I was robbed at one recently. Its a sad comment on how inefficient the County government is these days.
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