DCR086 on 9/8/2007 11:41:02 PM wrote:
One clarification Roanoker. It's not against the law to pass on the right on a four lane highway such as I-81, the road that seems to be the basis for the discussion here.
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Italianboy921 on 9/8/2007 9:36:30 PM wrote:
I think it is a wonderful and very thoughtful law. Enough of our young people are being taken due to automobile accidents caused in my opinion from inexperience of driving. Lets not give our young folks another option to distract them from operating what I and most people consider a lethal weapon.
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boater on 9/7/2007 3:10:49 PM wrote:
RoanokerSince80..
Here is a web site I suggest you visit. It pretty well summs it up with this statement.
Learn to think logically instead of emotionally.
http://www.slowertraffickeepright.com/
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scottrc on 9/7/2007 2:52:53 PM wrote:
so in short, here are $111 fines under that code:
46.2-841
Passing improperly to the right of a vehicle
46.2-842
Failing to give right-of-way to passing
vehicle; speeding up when passed; failing to
pull over-width or slow-moving vehicle off
road to allow traffic to pass
46.2-842.1
Failing to give way to overtaking vehicle
when driving to the left and abreast of
another vehicle
46.2-843
Passing without left lane being clearly
visible or clear of oncoming traffic at a safe
distance; passing in a truck on an upgrade
thereby impeding traffic
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scottrc on 9/7/2007 2:50:20 PM wrote:
"Failing to give way to overtaking vehicle
when driving to the left and abreast of
another vehicle."
There is nothing about "normal flow" of traffic in the wording.
In a similar discussion in the Hampton Roads Pilot, an officer had this to say:
"Hey Greg. Just to let you know; I've been writing tickets to those folks who hang in the left lane going below the normal speed of traffic and refusing to move over to the right. They do have a tendancy to pitch a fit but every one so far has resulted in a conviction. As you say, most are oblivious to not only the law, but to common courtesy as well."
So Roanoker, if you want to be an obstinate driver who thinks everyone should bow to YOUR interpretation, feel free, but you're in the wrong.
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RoanokerSince80 on 9/7/2007 10:09:51 AM wrote:
StephenAnderson,
If you're on I-81, the NEXT reckless driving fool is right behind you after the first one passes.
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StephenAnderson on 9/7/2007 8:46:11 AM wrote:
If some jerk is going to tailgate and honk to get you out of the left lane, just move. It is not worth defending your right to be in that lane. Two wrongs don't make a right. Let law enforcement deal with the idiot who insists on speeding in the left lane. Sometimes they get caught, sometimes they don't but their reckless behavior will get catch up to them someday, I would rather it not impact me since I let the fool pass and get as far away from my vehicle as possible.
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RoanokerSince80 on 9/7/2007 8:31:20 AM wrote:
You're silly. I'm making a point. If you knew me at all, you'd know I'm probably one of the safest, most courteous drivers you'll ever meet.
I was simply making a point.
You only need to get over to the right if you are impeding the normal flow of traffic. Some courts (in other states) have ruled that the normal flow of traffic is the posted speed limit.
This probably hasn't been tested in Virginia.
Either way, you could simply pass on the right. Yes, it's illegal, but you are admittedly already breaking the law anyway.
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sickandtired on 9/7/2007 8:28:46 AM wrote:
Careful there - he also advocates resolving disputes with his personal weaponry.
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StephenAnderson on 9/7/2007 8:12:33 AM wrote:
Well Roanokersince80, your last post shows much about your character. Instead of being a defensive driver that keeps safety paramount regardless of other drivers reckless behaviors, you instead would resort to intentionally causing an accident, creating a very unsafe situation that could cause lives to be in danger, simply to satisfy your own stubborn selfishness and monetary gain. Whether merging to the right is governed by law or not, I don't know, I am not versed in Virginia Highway code, but at the very least it is common courtesy, something you seem to know little about.
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RoanokerSince80 on 9/6/2007 1:32:48 PM wrote:
Meant to say behind me, not being me. Either way, you probably figured that.
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RoanokerSince80 on 9/6/2007 1:32:09 PM wrote:
scottrc,
Thankfully in Virginia you're always at fault if you hit the car in front of you.
Maybe next the the jerk pulls up being me and starts blowing the horn my foot will just accidentally slip onto the brake.
I'd like a new car anyways.
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scottrc on 9/6/2007 1:19:55 PM wrote:
However, being stubborn and obstinate in the left lane going 60 while someone is trying to overtake you IS against the law according to the code I posted.
So... I guess that makes you no better than the law breaking speeders. :/ Sorry to break it to you... Now Merge.
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RoanokerSince80 on 9/6/2007 12:56:40 PM wrote:
Quote: "Clearly you are in need of a driving course refresher."
I don't think so. I clearly remember my driving course 16 years ago... nowhere on it did it say:
If the posted speed limit is 60 mph and you wish to drive 73, which lane should you use?
Regardless of which lane you are in, 60 is the speed limit. If you want to go slower than that, you should be in the right lane. If you are going faster than the people in the right lane, you should pass them to the left.
Regardless, just because you are in the right lane doesn't change the fact that 60 is the posted limit and you are breaking the law by driving faster than that.
Being in the left lane doesn't nullify the law and make what you are doing right.
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boater on 9/6/2007 10:05:20 AM wrote:
RoanokerSince80...It is people like you who help perpetuate road rage. Why do you think there are signs all over the Interstate telling slower traffic to keep right?
Your attitude is going to ensure you have a not so pleasant date with someone who is having a bad day and is going to end up taking it out on you. Get a clue or become a cop so you can single handedly stop all the "speeders".
Clearly you are in need of a driving course refresher.
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TripleActionJones on 7/23/2007 3:23:45 PM wrote:
While I don't encourage speeding,yeah the left lane is for those who want to go faster.
If I am in the left lane going faster than the speed limit and someone gets behind me going faster, wanting to pass - I scoot right over.
Even if you don't approve of someone going faster than the speed limit, it's their butt on the line so let it be.
Also,nothing worse than being on the interstate and there'll be 2 lanes with cars side by side,going the same speed and prohibiting anyone from passing either dirver.
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scottrc on 7/23/2007 2:45:54 PM wrote:
The best part about that code? It affords me the right to HONK and FLASH my High Beams at people in the left lane and by law the people have to merge right!
Damn, I didn't know that. good stuff
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scottrc on 7/23/2007 2:40:33 PM wrote:
Even still "RoanokerSince80". The Left lane is for passing not for cruising at the speed limit. It's a law. Look it up.
VA Code 46.2-842.1
If you want to go slow and in direct defiance of the flow of traffic, YOU are at fault and YOU are the one who is making it dangerous to be on the road. Not the people going 60-65 on 581, or 70 on 81.
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TripleActionJones on 7/23/2007 12:31:16 PM wrote:
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This reminds me of the George Carlin bit of "Everyone who drives slower than you is an idiot.Those driving faster than you are all maniacs."
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RoanokerSince80 on 7/23/2007 11:55:14 AM wrote:
tntglelil said "If we could guarantee that the texting teen would only kill themselves, then I'd oppose the law, because I'd view it as a good Darwinian way to wipe out some idiots."
This is why I would highly support a "drunk driving lane". It would be a lane in the middle of the road, with concrete barriers on both sides. If you are intoxicated, you are permitted to drive in this lane only, with your fellow drunkards.
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RoanokerSince80 on 7/23/2007 11:52:40 AM wrote:
scottrc said: "...that the left lane is for passing and not cruising..."
Even in the left lane, the speed limit is the speed limit, scottrc.
I think it is so funny how people promote the left lane as a lane dedicated to breaking the law.
If the speed limit is 60, and I am doing 60 in the left lane, the only reason for me to get over is so you can break the law.
the worst think about it, though, is that it is supposed to be that way. Ridiculous.
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RoanokerSince80 on 7/23/2007 11:50:24 AM wrote:
salemwitch said: "A CAR IS NOT A PHONE BOOTH"
If that's the case, why do all of the new cars come with bluetooth? Because they want you to be able to talk on the phone while driving.
It's also not a beauty salon, but that doesn't stop women from putting on makeup while driving.
Not just women, though... I've seen men shave while driving, but not nearly as often.
Speaking of putting on makeup, why can't women put on mascara with their mouth shut?
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Walker on 7/18/2007 8:48:41 AM wrote:
While I agree that some adults have problems as well, I will echo the sentiments of others here.
The last thing kids need is ANOTHER distraction while driving. Good idea.
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tntglelil on 7/17/2007 9:56:35 PM wrote:
Great idea. The teens who think "multi-tasking" is something they can do well are missing the latest research, which is few people do it well. Usually each task done simultaneously is done worse. If we could guarantee that the texting teen would only kill themselves, then I'd oppose the law, because I'd view it as a good Darwinian way to wipe out some idiots. But some of them will wipe out innocent people, so to protect the rest of us, they'll have to stop. And if they think it's so easy, would they be OK if a doctor chatted on a cell phone while operating on them? Most cell phone usage I observe is either rude or obnoxious. Now add dangerous to the mix.
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scottrc on 6/30/2007 6:57:10 AM wrote:
Now if we can just teach the kids (and really everyone else) that the left lane is for passing and not cruising, and how to merge on and off 581 without stopping.... we'll be well on our way to passing driving school.
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GeorgiaBoy on 6/29/2007 4:37:35 PM wrote:
salemwitch,
adults may 'be worse' than kids but driving stats don't bear out your claim...combine the distraction of a cell phone and the inexperience of the youthful driver = disaster.
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salemwitch on 6/29/2007 12:36:03 PM wrote:
i think adults are worse than teens. i can't think of an emergency situation that "EVERY ADULT" i see has a phone glued to their heads. i might answer the phone, but if i have to talk, i will find a place to pull over, or just tell the caller to call me back. A CAR IS NOT A PHONE BOOTH!!!!!!
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TripleActionJones on 6/29/2007 9:29:22 AM wrote:
A law I can feel good about....
Though I have been cut off and almost hit by just as many,if not more, adults on their cell phones than kids.
Regarding that girl who wrecked while texting and driving drunk:
I have here the contents of her text message at the time of the wreck - "OMG,I AM LYKE SO TOE2LY DRUNK!!!"
;)
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ChrisEllis on 6/29/2007 8:52:05 AM wrote:
Just look at what happened a few weeks ago in Blacksburg... a text messaging (and drinking) 20 year old plowed into seven or so people on the sidewalk.
I thought it was funny that a *17 year old* thought that she was better that others at texting while driving, AND that she was a "very cautious driver." HA HA HA! She also said that she knows everything and that adults are "stupid".
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